Cestui Que Vie Act 1666 – Am I lost at Sea ?

Tuesday , 15, December 2015 1 Comment


The Cestui Que Vie Act 1666 is totally misconceived by those within the freeman/sovereignty movement to imply that state ownership of their body applies via the birth registration process, and unless this presumption is lawfully refuted before the time period of seven years elapses after registration, they become the property of the state, having been declared legally dead, or “lost at sea”. This is quite a fantastical proposition, based on a ridiculous abstract speculation regarding the intention of the 1666 Act. It is the foundation for their mythical version of “Maritime Admiralty Law” which they claim is the jurisdictional reason for the enforceability of statute law.

At that particular time in history, many English people were “over the seas” mainly involved in the Anglo-Dutch wars. When they went missing overseas, presumably killed in battle or by piracy, and never returned, it caused a legal dilemma for their families back in England, mainly because of inheritance issues being stalled indefinitely. Often their estates and properties were declared abandoned, and handed to over the church, denying their descendants their rightful inheritance. It was for these reasons the Cestui Que Vie Act 1666 was enacted, which was the first legislation pertaining to the presumption of death.

The original Act now has a footnote that states… “There are currently no known outstanding effects for the Cestui Que Vie Act 1666.” This is because after being amended several times by the Statute Law Revision Act 1886, Statute Law Revision Act 1888, Statute Law Revision Act 1948, the Cestui Que Vie Act 1666 was replaced completely by the Presumption of Death Act 2013.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Cha2/18-19/11

A person may be legally declared dead despite the absence of direct proof of the person’s death, such as the finding of remains (e.g., a corpse or skeleton) attributable to that person. Such a declaration is typically made when a person has been missing for an extended period of time and in the absence of any evidence that the person is still alive – or after a much shorter period but where the circumstances surrounding a person’s disappearance overwhelmingly support the belief that the person has died (e.g., an airplane crash).

Different jurisdictions have different legal standards for obtaining such a declaration and in some jurisdictions a legal presumption of death may arise after a person has been missing under certain circumstances and a certain amount of time. However, if there is circumstantial evidence that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the individual is deceased on the balance of probabilities, jurisdictions may agree to issue death certificates without any such order. For example, passengers and crew of the RMS Titanic who were not rescued by the RMS Carpathia were declared legally dead soon after Carpathia arrived at New York City. More recently, death certificates for those who perished in the September 11 attacks were issued by the State of New York within days of the tragedy. The same is usually true of soldiers missing after a major battle, especially if the enemy keeps an accurate record of its prisoners of war.

Most countries have a set period of time (seven years in many common law jurisdictions) after which an individual is presumed dead if there is no evidence to the contrary. However, if the missing individual is the owner of a significant estate, the court may delay ordering the issuing of a death certificate if there has been no real effort to locate the missing person. If the death is thought to have taken place in international waters or in a location without a centralized and reliable police force or vital statistics registration system, other laws may apply.

ENGLAND AND WALES…

English law generally assumes a person is dead if, after seven years, if there has been no evidence that they still live, the people most likely to have heard from them have had no contact, and inquiries made of that person have had no success.

This is a rebuttable presumption at common law—if the person subsequently appears, the law no longer considers them dead. The courts may grant leave to applicants to swear that a person is dead (within or after the seven-year period). For example, an executor may make such an application so they can be granted probate for the will. This kind of application would only be made sooner than seven years where death is probable, but not definitive (such as an unrecovered plane crash at sea),

These processes were not considered satisfactory, and so in 2013, the Presumption of Death Act 2013 was passed to simplify this process. Death is taken to occur on (a) the last day that they could have been alive (if the court is satisfied that they are dead), or (b) the day seven years after the date they were last seen (if death is presumed by the elapse of time)

(1)This section applies where a person who is missing—
(a)is thought to have died, or
(b)has not been known to be alive for a period of at least 7 years.
(2)Any person may apply to the High Court for a declaration that the missing person is presumed to be dead.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2013/…/section/1/enacted

SCOTLAND…

In Scotland, legal aspects of death in absentia are outlined in the Presumption of Death (Scotland) Act, 1977. If a person lived in Scotland on the date they were last known to be alive, authorities can use this act to declare the person legally dead after the standard period of seven years.

(1) Where a person who is missing is thought to have died or has not been known to be alive for a period of at least seven years, any person having an interest may raise an action of declarator of the death of that person (hereafter in this Act referred to as the “missing person”) in the Court of Session or the sheriff court in accordance with the provisions of this section.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1977/27/section/1

UNITED STATES…

The U.S. law calls people who disappear missing or absent. Several criteria affect declaring someone dead by assumption, a person’s being missing from their home or usual residence for, typically, seven years, (the period varies from state to state) such absences being continuous and without explanation, being accompanied by a lack of long-distance communication with those most likely to hear from them, and after diligent but unsuccessful search for that person and inquiry into their whereabouts.

(b) If evidence satisfactory to the Secretary is submitted establishing the continued and unexplained absence of any individual from that individual’s home and family for seven or more years, and establishing that after diligent search no evidence of that individual’s existence after the date of disappearance has been found or received, the death of such individual as of the date of the expiration of such period shall be considered as sufficiently proved.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/38/108

Unfortunately for their families, it takes 20 years in Italy to declare a missing person dead. After ten years from somebody’s disappearance, a motion to declare the person legally dead can be filed in a court of law. After that, another ten years must pass before the person can eventually be declared legally dead.

I have included here the original text from the Cestui Que Vie Act 1666 for your interest and research, so the information I’ve given you in this post can be compared to the Act to gain a better understanding of it’s true intention…

Cestui Que Vie Act 1666

1666 CHAPTER 11 18 and 19 Cha 2

An Act for Redresse of Inconveniences by want of Proof of the Deceases of Persons beyond the Seas or absenting themselves, upon whose Lives Estates doe depend.

X1Recital that Cestui que vies have gone beyond Sea, and that Reversioners cannot find out whether they are alive or dead.

Whereas diverse Lords of Manors and others have granted Estates by Lease for one or more life or lives, or else for years determinable upon one or more life or lives And it hath often happened that such person or persons for whose life or lives such Estates have been granted have gone beyond the Seas or soe absented themselves for many years that the Lessors and Reversioners cannot find out whether such person or persons be alive or dead by reason whereof such Lessors and Reversioners have been held out of possession of their Tenements for many years after all the lives upon which such Estates depend are dead in regard that the Lessors and Reversioners when they have brought Actions for the recovery of their Tenements have been putt upon it to prove the death of their Tenants when it is almost impossible for them to discover the same, For remedy of which mischief so frequently happening to such Lessors or Reversioners.

Cestui que vie remaining beyond Sea for Seven Years together and no Proof of their Lives, Judge in Action to direct a Verdict as though Cestui que vie were dead.

If such person or persons for whose life or lives such Estates have been or shall be granted as aforesaid shall remain beyond the Seas or elsewhere absent themselves in this Realme by the space of seaven years together and not sufficient and evident proof be made of the lives of such person or persons respectively in any Action commenced for recovery of such Tenements by the Lessors or Reversioners in every such case the person or persons upon whose life or lives such Estate depended shall be accounted as naturally dead, And in every Action brought for the recovery of the said Tenements by the Lessors or Reversioners their Heires or Assigns, the Judges before whom such Action shall be brought shall direct the Jury to give their Verdict as if the person soe remaining beyond the Seas or otherwise absenting himself were dead.

If the supposed dead Man prove to be alive, then the Title is revested. Action for mean Profits with Interest.

[X2Provided always That if any person or [X3person or] persons shall be evicted out of any Lands or Tenements by virtue of this Act, and afterwards if such person or persons upon whose life or lives such Estate or Estates depend shall return again from beyond the Seas, or shall on proof in any Action to be brought for recovery of the same [X3to] be made appear to be living; or to have been living at the time of the Eviction That then and from thenceforth the Tenant or Lessee who was outed of the same his or their Executors Administrators or Assigns shall or may reenter repossessed have hold and enjoy the said Lands or Tenements in his or their former Estate for and during the Life or Lives or soe long terme as the said person or persons upon whose Life or Lives the said Estate or Estates depend shall be liveing, and alsoe shall upon Action or Actions to be brought by him or them against the Lessors Reversioners or Tenants in possession or other persons respectively which since the time of the said Eviction received the Proffitts of the said Lands or Tenements recover for damages the full Proffitts of the said Lands or Tenements respectively with lawful Interest for and from the time that he or they were outed of the said Lands or Tenements, and kept or held out of the same by the said Lessors Reversioners Tenants or other persons who after the said Eviction received the Proffitts of the said Lands or Tenements or any of them respectively as well in the case when the said person or persons upon whose Life or Lives such Estate or Estates did depend are or shall be dead at the time of bringing of the said Action or Actions as if the said person or persons where then living.]



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  • Robbie B says:

    I always find the so called debunking of sovereign law by someone who has a conflict of interest in debunking it, quite laughable. I personally know both civil and criminal lawyers and a couple of QCs. In a sober meeting they take the same attitude but after a few imbibements they tell me “you are right but if we were to take that approach we would never work again”. The sad truth is that we can all pick on low hanging fruit when trying to make a point however the primary question asked by the single poster was in two parts. The second part is easy as it is called ‘Dog Latin’ and establishes a ‘juridical person’ or ‘artificial person’ which if you identify yourself as that ‘person’ you accept liability for all transactions of your artificial person or strawman and all the other terms used. I am in the process of writing a common law book regarding the treason perpetrated by the Law Society against the sovereignty of the Commonwealth of Australia and the vassal servitude the Australian government has locked us all into with the UN. Look up or Google Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 and from a historical perspective to see one of the ‘behind door’ deals that both parties have signed Australia up to look up ‘The Lima Agreement’ in 1975 the Trade Minister Willesee agreed to shift 20% of all Australian manufacturing to the developing world and currently today it is 90%. Is it only coincidental that practically all Australian PMs are lawyers?

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